Circlemakers pt2 of 18 (3 hour) documentary



Circlemaking in the UK has been going on for many years. Hear from Circlemakers why they make circles and why some of them believe circles attract strange effects and stranger people.

Circles cropcircle UFO,Conspiracy Paranormal Hoaxing Wiltshire Stones Megalith
check out my site… www.truthseekers-uk.org Matthew Williams

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it's a marks on them when they're photographing crop circles they tried to consume to marry the two together so quite honestly I think it's all all imagination and it's just to make things that it sound a little bit more important than they are there was one stranger happening one night when we were doing a pictogram on top of telegraph hill and dave was over one side of the pattern doing his little bit and I was doing mine and suddenly I was knocked unconscious and only for a short time of course something hit me on the head and I immediately thought that the farmer or the farm workers were approaching us and they thrown a stone at me or something but anyway the next thing I knew David was kneeling over me and he's saying what's the matter you know what what's the trouble and i said i don't really know i said something hit me on the head he said well there's nobody about but then i started feeling what I thought was blood running all down the back of my neck and all my hair was full of blood but of course we didn't know that it was blood because we had no torch we couldn't use torches of course otherwise we'd be seen and dave says I think we better get back to the cars and no we must finish the patterns we can't leave in half finished but anyway I came to quite well after a bit and we had about three quarters of a mile journey back to the car and I said well we can't see what it is I said until we get back to the car park and switch the headlights on and anyway when we got back to the car and switch the lights on my god he says what a mess your heads in I was covered in green like green slime and plenty of other things that intermixed with it and I said well we'll get off home now but of course when I reached home I open the door and I had to call him a wife and I said don't be alarmed when when you see me I said but I've got some nasty stuff I said all over my head and anyway she had to look at it and my god it was really terrible but what what had happened it was a chunk of ice it's fallen from an aircraft that was going over and how on earth the millions of chances to one of her hitting me on the head I don't know but as it was a warm evening by the time it hit me it was just a soft piece of sludge but it was just enough to knock me out for for a minute or two and and of course the air people from Heathrow completely deny any anything falling from aircraft but as you know that there's plenty of reports since of lumps of ice falling through people's roofs and into their living rooms but thank God it was only just a small soft piece that hit me that night and it was of course the chemical toilet way yes it was yes yes well although I'm an artist myself it's a totally different art to what we created in the fields as I say the fact that it was circular to start with and and UFOs were circular that was the whole idea behind it and it's which what's come of it as the years have gone by but the recognition that we've had I suppose we left their mark and sadly my friend dave chorley has passed away now he's creating circles up in the sky we should talk to each other when we're doing was it but all it is is flattened corn if you walk in you flattened it the only difference was the shapes we love the shapes because of its artistic value but I mean what these people have made of it was there a business I mean it's just become a big big laugh as the years go by but I'm still here I'm not creating circles any anymore unretired now haha and you can believe that or not but as an artist I create watercolors and oil paintings and also in the fields it's the largest canvas that we've ever we've ever had and as I say it pleases me to think that it's given pleasure to a lot of people well I was hoping to be knighted one day by by the Queen but I can't really see that happening because I suppose the National Farmers Union will create a bit of a fuss then but never mind sir Doug he'll carry on as long as he can and taking an interest in what other people are doing well time and time again I've told people how these lots of people say how on earth could these two men create circles all around the world well the answer to that is very simple because I've said it no end of times but no one seems to take any notice of what I say not that they want to anyway but let's take for instance if we did a Sorak all up on dirty head new Winchester of an evening we will go up the next evening to have a look at their handiwork and there will be anything up to fifty to a hundred people up there viewing it which pleased us no end and of course we would then rub shoulders with them and they would be from all different parts of the world on holiday there would be people from Canada America Germany France and we used to get into conversation with these people and they used to say to us when we get home from holiday we're going to do a circle or two and there you are they've gone back to America they gone back to Canada Germany likewise Japan and they're they're turning around just the same as we did and there you have the circles in all parts of the world not from Doug and Dave but from the people that came over here on holiday viewing the circles that we made and then they're having a go themselves you're still doing it today only yes when we used to go out to view what we've done the night before as I say the only people that we we knew were researching this was battleguard Oh Colin Andrews busty Taylor who was flying over and Richard Andrews and we used to get into conversation with these and I mean they they must know even to this day that we were frequenting up there and talking to them all the time and I always remember one one of wednesday afternoon at longstock I took my wife up to longstock to have a look at the circle that we made previous and I met Colin Andrews up there and he said there was some connection between a bit of a rubbish dump there in the circle that was Aidan field and he gave me his business card and he said if you hear of any circles round about he said perhaps you could let me know I said yes I will because I travel around quite a bit because I'm a a wildlife sound recordist and of course Dave and I used to do a circle one evening and then ring him up the next morning and said I'll Colin there's a circle at such and such and use of cell thanks very much thanks for the information which which made it all the fun well this is a little bit of a mystery attached to this although we've had a lot of fun out of making the circles over the years when when we started reading reports that some of our designs and patterns that we were creating had a connection with the Hopis Indians in America Mongolia aborigine tribes cave paintings etc and what mystifies me most of all is where is the connection of this why is it that I could sit down and in half an hour create a pattern on a piece of paper it was just as if my hand was being forced round with the pen to do this pattern I don't know where it came from but then then you read afterwards in just newspapers and magazines that it seems that there's a connection between what I drew their evening and what we were going to create in the fields that the with them with the Hopis Indians and Aborigine people and it seems to me that it could be a connection between languages but that mystifies me very much because it makes me feel as if that there is something unknown to us that we know with no knowledge of at all we're looking back at it all now after all these years I come to the conclusion that it'll never

Circlemakers pt12 of 18 (3Hour!) documentary



Circlemaking in the UK has been going on for many years. Hear from Circlemakers why they make circles and why some of them believe circles attract strange effects and stranger people.

Circles cropcircle UFO Conspiracy Paranormal Hoaxing Wiltshire Stones Megalith
check out my site… www.truthseekers-uk.org Matthew Williams

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good sign and you're going to get more bars than you will from visiting Teddy cuz it it's kind of understand that people built them industry is kind of impolite the unisys I mean I'm not complete kind of Philistine when it comes to understanding crops a lot of people say you're a negative person but if you're making something that turns out to be positive how is that yeah people say that because they suits them to say that a lot of people will say what what what suits that you know and because I I I am I am i embody a threat to them because they're trying to place their own meaning and their own value on something and it will try to be important you know you'll note it's a lot of people in this industry a lot that people in this part we're all trying to be talked about how important they are you know but I'm just proving each other yeah and esprit arguing mostly certain rubbish no I mean it's still going to get a sense of it well you're asking you're asking some sort of leading questions I mean there is who you are I'm just interested I don't need to be one way or the other I'm interested in questions because because the way you ask them mean something when you say to me why is it that you felt the need I mean you're assuming that I did feel the need well that's not true I didn't I didn't what it was not true white white one but it's not true because I didn't feel it what it may be you have a bailey interesting question yeah a fairly public voice yes but look 30 minutes but my my publicness isn't down to me it's down to what other people have imposed upon me because I don't have any electrical insulator I don't know many are two thousand fourteen times I don't have you asked that well I am I have an article in one of those publications your opinions are why do you feel the need to publish those and it's not to me whether they published someone I never write blowing up I don't write and send a me thing people ask me to write things they did yes restate territory okay I mean I mean somebody somebody's just asked me to write the potted history of crop circles blah blah blah for the for a well-known newsstand magazine now you ask me why they ask me I don't know why do they ask me the best story let me think well it was a great one about I don't know the the shootout at the ok wagon and horses I mean it was when it was all this sort of photography about other people I think I think the best one was when the police came round to my house demanding to know information about circle making and Jim and I were about to publish a story in The Independent magazine about circle makers and we kind of felt that we knew who was this is years and years ago we felt that we we knew who was kind of doing these jobs and that lets slip and the police came round and I had to explain to the police that it was really a it really needs to be sorted out journalistically rather than legally you know no police problem it was a journalistic it required some understanding of how some young people were desperately trying to communicate with aliens and that there was not really anything or any kind of rule of law about that and there's nothing that they should be troubled with that was it that was a good one and I found up pusey police station and they said I don't want to get into a philosophical argument about this mr. Irving so that was that my own first experience of you know going into crop circles will purely round the time the BBC were filming in west be on the west be white horse doing the study on some of the crop circles and it just so happened that night but I was leaving my house to go into the back garden and hang some washing-up and as I did I saw what I can only explain as triangular craft in the sky with free lights on each tip and so more sort of deep red light in the middle and I was quite shocked was started by this and run back in to grab my mum Pharaoh to have a witness of it and women came out but she didn't catch it was too late fer de su and I found myself some lion 21 them and saying I need to fill up my car with fuel for work tomorrow knowing that the only 24-hour Garage was about sort of 89 miles away towards West beware to BBC were filming and towards the same direction this craft was going so I am some left to more or less pursue why I'd seen and ended up going up on top of the white horse and poaching so the area where the BBC were and it was then i made some acquaintances with a lot of people from some of the crop circle background Colin Andrews Pat Delgado and some of my good friends today and sort of happened the next day down in the field so about half a mile away to the left was this large circle with three circles around it very similar fashion to the look of the craft and beside to this craft an end of night that the actual circle appeared for only BBC cameras didn't catch it apparent was very sort of strange night because we all seem to be knocked out we all seem to want to just all go to sleep at that point of the night we'll just felt compelled to sleep and await them that's more and find the circle there and I just find it very strange because we all kind of questioned each other the next day you know when did we go to sleep and it's almost like we can all remember when we went to sleep and usually you know at least one person will double recollection Fe night oh yeah we decided to go sleep at this time or something I love about me yeah so it all came about when me in the navab crop circle infuse yes we were looking out that the crop circles appearing at the time decided upon making an effort to make a circle firstly to see the difference between what we were seeing out there in the fields what we thought was to be genuine and what a human could do and what sort of damage it would cause to the crop compared to some of the ones we'd seen and also federal reasons to do with some supernatural events whether there was an assault form of contact of anything that was there or whether any energy would you know sort of assimilate around us as we were doing the circle so we wanted really as test purposes to go out and see our own personal reasons whatever that would make it and so we sort of set about looking at some designs what sort of designed to make it was unless complicated in our mind we don't want to go too complex I will make two bigger circle because we were purely just on the basis of Rhys seen the difference between the two the first circles words are McGrath sort of circle over near warminster and it was partly just to provoke interest through the military because it was right next to military base and to just watch over it for a while and see whether day were taking an interest because to us if they took and in a chest and there must be something going on within a military group that was taken it seriously there seem to be quite buzzed around it especially as it was just in plain sort of long grass which was of what they would feed the cattle on really they would just come and mow it down so you know on that account you would expect there to be much of a fuss as in towards damage because you know it could easily all still be collected and used for that same purpose and so we did see sort of military coming down taking a look taken a few photographs so that was quite interested in that respect and then we moved on to some a rape seed oil field no but the crop was very brittle and that one was more on the purpose of similar any energies would serve a human

Circlemakers pt18 of 18 (3Hour!) documentary



Circlemaking in the UK has been going on for many years. Hear from Circlemakers why they make circles and why some of them believe circles attract strange effects and stranger people.

Circles cropcircle UFO Conspiracy Paranormal Hoaxing Wiltshire Stones Megalith
check out my site… www.truthseekers-uk.org Matthew Williams
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would anybody our team the kind of agenda that we have is not to make a formation have someone Russian and go all this downs as well it's genuine and stem for us to come out so I'll know his early evidence we took some photographs and here's some time-lapse of us making it we've never done that I mean now it's kind of an agenda for circle makers who kind of kind of predated us we just have a very separate agenda which is to as far as possible disassociate ourselves from the specific formations we've never actually specifically claimed a formation and we never will because the whole point and the whole power of our work is gained from the fact that they are author this as soon as you claim the formation you kill it you know we never personally made any money out of the formations but you know for us it's you know it's a hobby it's not it's it's it's not our profession it's unlike Colin Andrews you know he makes his living off of it and and good luck to him he's very good at what he does and in what he does he supports what we do he's basically acts as an agent for our work so fine you know he's getting payment for that for that job I think we crave publicity for our formations I don't think we personally create publicity sure we all have egos and sure it's quite nice to sit in front of a camera but now I create publicity for my formations not for me personally for us so it's kind of important I think to actually because we're artists to talk about that agenda and to try and kind of push forward to debate about crop circles and bring that kind of area into it and to a certain extent we kind of we have to do we have to go in front of cameras and talk about what we're doing or why we're doing it I said I certainly don't crave publicity no I was basically when I started circle making my intention was always to remain completely anonymous but to a certain extent I was outed by George Wingfield and once that happened you can't really put the ground back in the half and so we decided this to you know to kind of go with it and used to advantage basically we can talk as circlemakers but we don't have to play in specific formations so we don't take any power away from the phenomenon and maybe weaken this kind of like threw out some interesting arguments and pushing that just push it forward sure we all have a little snicker now and then no I enjoy reading I enjoy reading people talking about informations like when broadsheet journalists go into formations like I did this year for instance the frat or one at Silbury Hill and one of milk your second fractal and when they go in there and they say these things could not be made by people you know we get a kick out of that so if the kind of residual belief in the circles kind of drops away then the phenomenon dies and we all lose both sides lose like I said before that it's simply a symbiotic relationship you know we need them and they need us and although bizarrely never the twain shall meet we need each other and the truth is out there I mean you know we're sitting here I'm talking quite candidly about what I do but you'll believe what you believe you believe if you want to say that I work for the government you believe that if you believe I'm an artist to believe that whatever I don't have a problem with each their own I mean sure we worry about it but we're extremely careful it's not to say that it won't happen and I'm sure one day it will happen it has happened before outside of this country it happened in Hungary I think some skeptics were actually cool making information and I think know taken to court as well and I think ended up paying equivalent of twenty eight pounds for a damage the crop but it wasn't a particularly spectacular formation but yeah we worry about being cool we're very careful and we get cool it's a fair cop it's interesting at you over the past couple of years there's been a kind of bit of a sea change well I'll go back before yes we have had trouble we've had hang-up phone calls we've had threatening mail there have been attacks on physically on some circle makers of myself and on their property so yes you know there is the unit there is a certain risk in doing what we do I actually have if you want me to show you some of the threatening letters what you've actually received absolutely yes on several occasions I myself of had a series back in 1994 there was three occasions towards the end of the season where I myself the other circle makers were seeing flashes of light balls of light kind of double moving and crackling more recently this year we were out circle making in Wiltshire and saw an amazing kind of like bursts of light and then a column of light spectacular no sound completely silent we I haven't really seen like a 50-foot craft with like grey aliens hanging outside of it but but we've seen some pretty weird shape once a bit well while we're down there in the field yeah on several occasions there's been times when we've drawn diagrams and the formations have appeared in the field before we got there to make it certain weird synchronicity isn't and certain when themes appear every year in the actual formations and I guess there's a certain amount of the teens feeding off of each other but you know I think there's been a certain list has been a lot of 6-volt geometry this year and certainly a lot of the early formations that appeared we were not responsible for and they all had sex or geometry and they had very similar geometries of stuff I mean we've been working on over the winter so there is a certain amount of synchronicity it could have cosmic coincidence

Circlemakers pt6 of 18 (3hour!) documentary



Circlemaking in the UK has been going on for many years. Hear from Circlemakers why they make circles and why some of them believe circles attract strange effects and stranger people.

Circles cropcircle UFO Conspiracy Paranormal Hoaxing Wiltshire Stones Megalith
check out my site… www.truthseekers-uk.org Matthew Williams

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anomaly appeared on Shirley after that time I started making circles and that very day when I went out and took that photograph was a kind of weird conversion for me because it was also the first day when I really twig that circles probably will made by people but at the same time I experienced something which was seemed genuinely and still seems genuinely anomalous and that's really set the tone for for my circle making activities since then and which was in 1991 since that time I've had probably half a dozen sightings some of them have been photographic mostly have not been mostly they've been whilst I've been constructing a circle and as a consequence of that have been witnessed by a numbers of people including on two occasions journalists and these are mainly flashes of like a board of light and a column of light as well recently that we were witnessed and they've inspired me to go on and other things as well so I've also made another series of artworks based on those experiences absolutely bizarre coincidences hand all of the time I can remember early my early circle making days in the early 90s when I made a formation and overnight another another circle was added to it which was actually on the diagram that I had with me but we decided not to put that circle on the formation I came back the next morning and the circle was there I didn't know what to make of that a time and I guess I still don't really well it's clearly not a new art form because dock bar has been making circles for 20 years and in my opinion actually he has done something absolutely remarkable and and kind of deserves the credit which I'm sure will never get for it unfortunately but in addition to that I think that there is a tradition in the paranormal of intervention creative intervention by individuals that probably stretches back for centuries I think you can see that in many many different forms from UFO photo us too perhaps going right back even to the Turin Shroud to seances and spiritualists in the 19th century there is a tradition of some form of sort of creative intervention which merges on deception sometimes and crop circles are just another manifestation of the same thing I think making a formation yeah can be very very exciting I suppose I mean certainly you do get you get a kind of adrenaline hit from it but the adrenaline haze is is I think due to being an extra it very very extreme situation which also is quite alien in many ways you're either pupils dilate massively so your whole experience visual experience and your senses your visual senses are a completely thrown it's so much like seeing in kind of infrared or negative or something it's impossible to judge distances shadows appear well it shouldn't be things move on the corner of your eyes what color your eyes play all kinds of tricks with you and then at the same time you've got this technical challenge of putting something in a field and an incredibly short amount of time that is really pushing what's humanly possible to do added to which you're trying your damnedest not not to be caught in any way so yeah it can be it can be pretty exciting pretty hairy I've no idea actually what crop circles are for I make them because I'm an artist and that I see them functioning as art pieces in a very public way I think other people think that they may be other things and for other things so beyond that already say well there's a number of things and designer of the circle that are interesting and I think characterized formations or the recent formations anyway over the last few years that they contain often we design them so they contain very specific geometric relationships which are usually related to the division of a circle by two three four five or six parts and as a result of that the geometric ratios they contain develop into geometric patterns from those basic divisions another thing as well about the des sciences but they often we often try and make them so that they somehow resonate with images that are found a nature or images that are found at least in notions about nature so I mean that would include things like spirals or other geometric shapes that you might find in a natural setting yeah i mean the sources for some of the designs for circles the nature itself many of the circles of the last few years nature on sometimes on a micro microscopic level both on a map on a macro level as well i provided the inspiration for the symbolism of the circles as well as various geometric relationships that are embodied in those natural symbols we started crop circles that's a mile upon and i pretty much when the season was drawing to a close and I remember being the milk Hill masterpiece a wonderful Frank to all I met Colin Andrews and staff had a chat and though it is absolutely knowing with certainty then they will do as a man-made phenomenon by and large but when I discovered with certainty it was a man-made phenomenon then the next step was to go and make them and it seemed the most appropriate thing to do I think we just had a big stick at the time just a big pole and we just put down also week when we just put down nice big circle I say it was big for a step but it's only about 80 for the class and the next night we came to the field and we just um put circles everywhere everyone filled all over the place will probably put a while so everywhere we probably for about 24 circles all in all in that field juice circles were rings and just little things in grapeshot and stuff like that and we came back and and that was our first experience really of making crop circles if you ask us what for what reason work did we go into the field to make crop circles and to be entirely honest I think an issue because it's a bit of a buzz right now people might think this this guy is a sad guy why would he go into feel late at night to make cross vehicle for a buzz but I think we wanted to see whether we could make them and where people would see them as the authentic article and and then we felt over time that quite possibly something else was involved and what that something else is we don't really know but whatever there's something there's there seems to be some kind of intelligent response to what we're doing in some intelligent interaction and that's what has really interested in and probably it is taking it to a point now that if we were to make crop circles again which we don't ever get the or not it would it would mean that we'll be doing it for one because you want to make better crop circles bigger crop circles more elaborate and to because we think there's something something else is happening and I think it's something so even the manmade formations they seem to carry something with them sometimes not always but sometimes there's something spiritual I think I'm happening there when i was 16 i remember very clearly very clearly it's indelibly printed on my mind we were staying at my aunt I'm olives in reading and I was there with my various cousins and and this was late at night we're in bed I remember very clearly we had this most incredible experiences side to a car and they were we had balls of light spheres of light orbs of light not beams of light from the tour but orbs of light very clearly orbs of light coming up to the bedroom window illuminating the whole bedroom and then appearing to go over the roof of the house now avatar marking molly was subset that she went outside to get her cat in because he was afraid for the safety of her cat and I remember one of my cousin's was really really excited he was jumping up and down making all this noise and going up and down the stairs and I got to a point where we just couldn't sleep and the kids were playing up and while he threatened mounting Molly threatened if he carried on I'd be hell to pay when his dad came back so I remember all that very clearly and also remember the next morning at breakfast Marty had phoned the Ministry of Defense to find out if anything peculiar been happening that night over that way so all these incidences when Della being printed on my mind yet when I asked my Molly my auntie about their

Circlemakers pt14 of 18 (3Hour!) documentary



Circlemaking in the UK has been going on for many years. Hear from Circlemakers why they make circles and why some of them believe circles attract strange effects and stranger people.

Circles cropcircle UFO Conspiracy Paranormal Hoaxing Wiltshire Stones Megalith
check out my site… www.truthseekers-uk.org Matthew Williams

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one friend had gone off he just got the funny mood that night and so he decided to leave and he said he was going to hitch back and then finding out that the three of us he went into that circle and that was sickness and diarrhoea for a couple of days and the friend who'd left if I never had sickness and diarrhoea which I found very strange no that couldn't be put down to any other cause but us going into that same circle together so early just after informed yet because I'm happens of i went back next day I'm left my friends house feeling very tired even though we'd had sleep and my friend's mother didn't want me to drive home to where I lived a few villages away she said I was welcome to stay over because I didn't look too well I I just wanted to make the journey home so I went home and I went to bed early and it was only sort of Renee the next day but I saw felt a bit more energized again and sort of upon getting up having a shower and freshen it up for the Marlin i'm founder triangular mark on man which I can explain in which you know took a photo of them luckily for me I did because it disappeared a lot more than 10 minutes later and also just to find with my what tube lost about half an hour of time at the same time as well which me just seemed very strange especially from feeling so sort of low suddenly feeling so so awake and so alive again so the ubi spawned from my mind I just wake up one day and it was just like it was in my head ubi that very much meant United believers of intelligence from sort of UFO sightings and stuff it really came about that had an open mind and my mind had opened up enough and I'd seen things but no longer could I just put down to be and classic ice crystals in the sky reflecting light and things like that so you bi spoon for that but the ub y DB i wasn't really about just two individuals it was about people coming together and sharing the experience and look at different sides of it not just the crop circles but spirituality so guests the loves of beliefs of people Alvin sort of the spiritual world and in the world of the paranormal and it came from there really I would say yes angers me but some people make money from subject in crop circles itself because there was a lot of people to time out there and if it wasn't money it was kind of Fame will try and grab their slice of something which was a light deemed quite magical at the time and I felt everyone just wanted to be recognized as someone some sort of authority whereas we went around not sort of trying to be recognized but trying to look at the whole thing openly and generally and we could see these other people just so jumping on the bandwagon and trying to make a name for themselves and of course making money from some crop circle conferences and cetera no I just thought it was disgusting but we went one crop circle conference down in Glastonbury and we had a lot of information and a lot to give to people there to talk about openly in sort of debate and it was purely on the basis that we didn't have the money but we couldn't really go in to do that and I felt so a bit disgusted with us will it come down to as money and such so extortionate prices just to go into a debate and it just so happened we'd met a couple of nice people out there some looking at the circles and they felt that we had something better to give into the debate about the actual subject and money to them was no object they did have a lot of money but they said what was more important was the actual subject itself and made around and paid for myself and another member of the ubi to go in and you know get our point of view across so it's quite happy to do that but I just found but it was very sort of based around tourism and just trying to make a bit of money along the way and my approach has always been but this is something vice sort of felt was important and had small substance and just people making them as well and I didn't think it was right but people should be able to jump on the bandwagon was so easy um I wouldn't say what some circle making was trying to pull the wool over people's eyes but I have seen people who have tried to do pure leave sort of on the basis of TV and the way that sometimes they wanted to make a mockery of the subject because you've got a subject with us at the time becoming very powerful very in the public mind very open and you can see in some ways the authorities trying to push that back because it's a very powerful thing having too many people with open minds out there because the state we live in in the world where they do like to have control even though we like to think we control our lives they do have control over us and I think something is powerful and quite moving in Supernatural and unexplained was so jumped on by certain agencies to try and sort of calm public attention by using some crop circle makers and trying to use people that thought it was genuine and trying to stitch people up at the same time so I'd say some of them did it for that reason but also they probably were paid for that but generally I wouldn't save everyone was out there just to pull the wool over everyone's I do they have one group that did have a weird experience they were going out just to do it purely for those reasons with the actual circle making those teams actually going out to sort of go about in the wrong way and their experience i remember was quite frightening for one person because as he was going round the crop and flattening he felt like i said that something was watching him and it took quite a bit to get this out of this person he felt that something was watching him and as he started going round again a little bit more nervous and this is people that won't usually be nervous they'd God made circles before so you know it had no reason to be frightened in a field they weren't doing their own no it's a group of them now I went out made some circles quite simple affairs in the first instances and the researchers deemed these circles to be genuinely paranormal and what was interesting to me is that some people experienced weird paranormal effects in the circle that I'd created now if you're asking me you know why I created circles I suppose initially to test the researchers but because of my finding that people were having paranormal experiences in the circles we had created it obviously opened up a completely new avenue of why I would want to make circles why I think the the lines actually get blurred and maybe these researchers could have quite reasonably believed my circle to be power normal is because many witnesses many many people who actually went into the formations actually experienced paranormal events and these were not just researchers so my testing to find out whether researchers could tell the difference actually produced a whole different response than I expected and of course when you realize that you can create something and people are going to have that sort of a response in in the circles I think it opens up a question in your mind as to how far you can go and just how far the experiences that people have will go in these in these circles so I wanted to push the bounds of what I was creating and also to see the reactions of people that went in a

Circlemakers pt11 of 18 (3Hour!) documentary



Circlemaking in the UK has been going on for many years. Hear from Circlemakers why they make circles and why some of them believe circles attract strange effects and stranger people.

Circles cropcircle UFO Conspiracy Paranormal Hoaxing Wiltshire Stones Megalith
check out my site… www.truthseekers-uk.org Matthew Williams

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answers they're not interested in answers and once you realize that they're interested in a sort of a social habit you know if there was an answer then they wouldn't be able to come to it would be no reason to come to the barge every year you know so so once you've got the gist of that then then it becomes something else and you wallow around for a little while and then it becomes art do you think our childs arches into this stuff yes that's that's a good way of looking at it it's art and I I wholeheartedly believe now that it is ah it fits the complete criteria of of art in the sense that art is is supposed to fill people with experience and people are supposed to get an experience of what they're they're observing or looking at or or being in and yes it fits that criteria perfectly so yes one becomes an artist and it's brilliant I have absolutely no right or I'll give you another answer I've every right in the world I'm decided which one year besides of threatening mail the physical threats the abuse no not no no no not much trouble be that the damage to cars the hassle you know they always seem to phone up when I'm watching a good football match apart from that no trouble at all the the most common which I've also experienced a bright bright flashes of light in the direct vicinity of your activities the other ones have been mental more mentally I thought I've made a circle and I've made it haven't you and then I i'm down at the bottom of the avenue and and uh as i'm making my way up back up the Avenue I think what if there's a devil sitting in the circle you know and i'll start doing my head in a little bit and i'll get there and there isn't one so so I realize well maybe that's why sick people see Devils you know oh that's something interesting to think about but apart from that no occasional meteor on meteorology cool anomalies i would say bright flashes or a bit of a mystery there talked about amongst circle makers in pubs / beer to make a circle thank you a couple of people large pictogram 400 footer one and a half hours and do you feel you can do this in complete darkness with no moon um full moon makes it very very difficult you call something else it's too bright so yeah people would say oh half moons are a coordinated better yeah well no yeah sure yeah because people eyes are just to the line everyone everyone who lives in the country knows this so a lot of people say they could he possibly do this in five hours of darkness and well a lot of people say a lot of things but nation you know i mean the objects of this exercise with me initially was to try it and once I've tried it you found that a lot of the these statements are not true and then how do you only get a reason people get can follow orders and do these things precision mistakes well two people two people are following order so you don't don't people be too hard to be well i mean i would say lately in the last year or so you've had more than two people working on and I would say obstinate goes wrong yeah I mean there was a very large formation in this vicinity last year very large probably the largest one you can think of which went wrong and if you look at it from a purely aesthetic point of view didn't go wrong if you look at the photograph if you look at it from the position of being there you can see how it kind of did go wrong most of these jobs are done by two in the morning and people are at memory service station by three there's a obvious sense of denial somewhere and I get accused of having a strong sense of denial and that's that explains skepticism that skepticism is denial because these things are true and from my point of view the denial is on the other side I mean evidence has been put forward blah blah blah of this that and the other and still seven years later you get people saying well people couldn't do this because and to me that's a sense of denial to me it's all about it's this weird twisted kind of wrangled thing about human potential yeah how how I say yes people can do this people can go out and they can create this thing and it and there's a bit okay they go off in secret and it's dark and it is a big mystery about it and that is to me as humor potential but then there's this other side which says that's denial saying that human potential is about communicating with these things and and believing in this kind of invisible world that that no one can kind of quite put their finger on and and there's the there's the line you know who's right I think this is it's very interesting the the line I like looking at the line walking um well I I come here and apparently I do walk it to me I'm just coming up a drink and Here I am do you feel like being part of the phenomenon is actually helped perpetrated yeah yeah I kept it going for a few years it's a bit during a sticky period but I mean 91 between ninety one ninety four we kind of myself and a few others kept it going when it was like I can't know there was a feeling during 92 93 that the thing needed to be kept going after the debacle of dozen days and it was a good phenomenon it needed it needed to be continued and then was that a bit of that feeling and looking back I think that that's probably true if you do feel like some parts of it are genuine like they come from somewhere you can't explain I think that if if you assume for a moment that they're they're all out that doesn't matter how they get there if they're all say they're all man made all of them the fact that people are experiencing things and being healed and feeling good that that to me is very very interesting and needs needs investigation science doesn't look at that so even at its basest level it be if you strip the form if you strip the phenomenon down to nothing you know to complete numbness you know no kind of paranormal reasons that things are appearing the fact that people are interacting with them in a way that they do is I think very interesting and very important and and there's a lot to be learned and I would say that that as it stands is you know sufficiently paranormal so I mean you can you can kind of have me or not have me you know might let you know in it and it's still paranormal I think that's funny interesting the effect people don't people got complete the wrong idea of art I think they think it's something they view in terms of objects but it should be viewed in terms of experience if you look at a painting it's not the painting that's got any value its experience you get from it which is which is the art is that this the value in the meaning and then started with different mother died because they have this whole completely false way of placing value on stuff and it's all coming out isn't it about what's fake then why you know yet this is ridiculous it art is about the experience you get from something so therefore art could be anything in theory anything that you get an experience from and there's nothing greater than a massive crop formation that but even as a bonus um as a kind of symbolism attached to it you know it's in the shape of something but even just a simple circle you know larger the better much as you can manage it a night it's going to create it's going to be like this temporary

Circlemakers pt3 of 18 documentary



Circlemaking in the UK has been going on for many years. Hear from Circlemakers why they make circles and why some of them believe circles attract strange effects and stranger people.

Circles cropcircle UFO,Conspiracy Paranormal Hoaxing Wiltshire Stones Megalith
check out my site… www.truthseekers-uk.org Matthew Williams

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and I'm rather pleased that thousands of people have found an interest and an enjoyment from it I hope no one ever gets caught doing it we had some narrow squeaks but I appreciate that the fact that lots of people are more or less depending on this now for their interest I suppose really it's a kind of religion but I've got nothing against these people and what they've made of it the people that that the bit that gets me most of all I think is the so-called experts what they built themselves up as what they say it is they seem to know it all the media goes to these people but the the people that find some enjoyment and pleasure from it there are there are the people that I think they're getting something from it and I hope it continues that way but I don't think it'll never it'll no it'll never end it'll go on forever I first all crop circles when I was back living in Watford earn am at the tie you know maybe you know I wasn't necessarily happy with the way that my life was going I mean a lot of people do they do people get two points and they want to put their life on a different tackle they're not completely satisfied with everything and crop circles seem to be like a lot of cosmic a cosmic bat sign really for for me you know it seems something special and it seemed like something exciting to go and look at and find out about and it much more interesting than the average like Monday life that I've been living up until that point you know so Oh God are on pretty much of a whim I I sort of sold everything I had bought a tent and a rucksack and just hitch hiked up to the area and like started camping out and crop circle started turning up where I was sleeping and special coincidences and synchronous dreams and are just a really magical air and and I become more and more resolved into the area and into the crop circle phenomenon which sort of ended up flowering from a belief of it all made by aliens into into realizing that they made by humans but there's still something magic day because I knew that magic things had happened to me while I was interacting with them and it didn't change when i started making them either it just seemed to get more and more strangers that you weren't able to talk to hardly anybody about it so it was a yeah it's been quite amazing the entire journey from me then to me now it's a it's been very special when I when I first turned up in the area I got dropped off below Silbury Hill and so it was a it was late at night so I bang my tent up down what about Michelle be very naughty but I was a ignorant of these are these confines at the time and camped out woke up in the morning climbed up silvery because I see this magnificent monument by the side of my take because I was well aware unaware of it at the time that I arrived there climbed up the top of Silbury Hill and to see what the view was like and there was the most glorious star-shaped pattern in the in the field by silvery and I've only just turned up there and off wow you know maybe this is turned up overnight you know because there's people in there they was turned up this is for me you know this isn't right she's very slow specials on band down there as fast as i could bursting in there got meet all the people that are involved in crop circles and people who are filming and people just visit in there or in the area and i ended up speaking to about eight nine people who is sitting there and what are you speaking different languages and his friend Bell German and German and is a really cosmopolitan sort of atmosphere and everybody was sitting down and talking about love and life and the hypocrisy of life and spiritual ideals and all these wonderful things and I just I had I remarked at one point to everybody I'm this fantastic that we're all were all here talking light as a group as a unified bunch of people you know and done it the next day when I see the aerial photograph it was a in the lay of the crop was two doves of peace kissing and so that was like that's very significant for me because I'd made that statement during that crop circle so that was like a very poignant time for me I've seen balls of light in the field while making and and while just like staying in the area Oh crikey we've had a pink weird things happen with time and like you say something and something caught a relevant crop circle or turn up you know or you're you'll have a dream about something at all but I something have something poignant in it and that will be relevant to a crop circle that turns up or drawing something and a cop surfers turn up that's happened a couple of times and very very strong you know very definite you know what exactly what you draw and you know I had one occasion when I was a sitting down with my my brother and my brother configure what the draw and while he had the blank piece of paper in front of him a cog came off jumped off or seemed to jump off cut pug land on the paper so we drew a cog and then that turned up I think the overwhelming feeling that crop circles ended up giving me was a sense of interconnectedness between all the different elements so like in my life and in everybody else's life everything around us it gave the sense that actions or thoughts that we might have might bear some relevance to something that might doesn't at first seem like it's connected but connections were were made from seemingly unassociated things people over vast distances and over time and weather events that are happening around the world and people in fields right next to each other without knowing each other with their making circles in the same place you know and people making the same circle in different places it's similar time frames and it all gave the increase in idea that all gaps and divides were like illusionary that everybody and everything was connected in some way or shape you know wow I bumped into a very naughty class and one it's called Murphy Williams home who led me astray away from all the believers and all that fall from that hazy AZ view of the world to this much more concise and much more into in took me into the phenomenon you know but a different a different view different view on the same scenario a different angle on it and it seemed to flower even more after that you know take on all new all new possibilities and or all sorts of new kinds of magic started manifesting and it took on a whole new whole new slant but still just as just as if not more fantastical and amazing and coincidental and synchronous and telepathy and took off into a whole new room in a yay was really was a Matthew Williams that sort of really encouraged me and let allow me to flower as it were I was just going to have to get my tempo no to my pocket yellow aid it's true though it is true but you know I mean there's no denying it is it you were the one who really said look I mean it's not actually like that is it you know i think the real motivation to go to so much effort is the idea of being able to do something for somebody you don't know that you've never met and you maybe even never likely to me something that hopefully will be positive in their life will help them maybe he'll them take them on to a new level help the meditate just giving them a calm moment away from everything just to do something positive completely selflessly for someone else is just the most wonderful gift in the world and also another reason for doing it is because it it hopefully opens people's eyes to new subjects new ways of looking at things new ways of viewing our new ways of thinking new ways of behaving even with meditation and and how we interact with nature and it works as so many different levels and there's so many positive messages that are interwoven into the matrix of crop circles there's more reasons to do it than not to well some people see is a joking around as falling people if you like but I don't see it like that I see it I can well in my personal experience I went through the process and it gave me a lot to go through the process I benefited from it and so to allow other people to go through that same mechanism or fault process I think would be great no I I don't see it as a joke and I don't see it as being shamming people

Circlemakers pt8 of 18 (3hour!) documentary



Circlemaking in the UK has been going on for many years. Hear from Circlemakers why they make circles and why some of them believe circles attract strange effects and stranger people.

Circles cropcircle UFO Conspiracy Paranormal Hoaxing Wiltshire Stones Megalith
check out my site… www.truthseekers-uk.org Matthew Williams

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she helps you meant something to him well I remember once we're at in Bobby castle and this is an evening and it was a pitch black night and it was the most glorious night and even I mean we were there when it was light as well but there was the feeling in the air like a door had been opened and it was a door of open in there's an open invitation it sounds bizarre but we fell and we joked about we said you can make of formation the complete daylight here and no you wouldn't get caught and there was that sensation of protection an invitation there was now okay k to go and make a crop circle now we didn't but as it happened that night these field two huge formations occurred very significant formations occurred nice field and there may be another one that occurred that night also i can't recall now but that was certainly one of those nights other nights we fry again other nights we felt that definite call at definitely invitation and great formation has appeared we were going to one year a deformation and locally and we were iming an hour and where to go to this particular hill and we weren't sure about here but all of a sudden we got the feeling in my heart that was okay and we remember we're sitting in the room and feel incredibly happy as it happened we didn't go that night but someone else when that now or something else because the next morning there was a formation right on the place that we were going to to actually use and we'll ask you to be ours will he fell up because we were going to want to do something bigger and it was a really nice formation and some people really love that formation and got a really good feeling from it baba see seem that someone else picked up on that calling or whatever it was that impulse to do it and someone asked it and probably did a better job than we were then probably well there were some really nice researchers out there there's Colin Andrews I got well we'll call him and I believe colleen is a genuine researcher and he's got to a point we've done genuine research imitated for it because I also Peter sansom pedis arson is a very genuine researcher absolutely genuine first-rate first class he's done real undercover work real detective work and he's met circle my humor circle makers who claim to make crop circles he's got to know them he's also legally as you know he's gone out with them to actually be a part of that now and he's actually be spoken about I recently so so Peters a very genuine researcher a calling I would say is a very genuine researcher he also has spent considerable time talking to human beings and discovering hey look yeah human beings are making this and I think that's fantastic on his part but there are some researchers out there who they it's almost like a little lamb dual cult it's almost becoming cultic and they have talks to people who interested in the paranormal activity and who believe that circles are done by an unseen force created by an unseen force and these researchers seem to bend the truth for variance and I can remember being at one meeting one particular lady a couple of times in fact and I've actually been appalled by the kind of arrogance I felt in that room by ordinary folk who believe they know something that they don't actually know and also the way that certain major important things that happen that season is human circle makers legally making formations when I even not even mention and their work wasn't shown for people to compare for themselves because I've seen formations that people in Matthew Williams has made he did one nice field this year a planetary formation which was so superb it's like I thought everyone would be astonished but I didn't hear that astonishment really research Issa so no it's not like the orig no it wasn't spherical and I think hang on there's something there's there's something missing there there's one least mass acknowledge this is a really good piece of piece of artwork on what happened so I think that is definitely missing there's a blind area and that's a real arrogance and because it's saying that it must be like to trust yours because human beings can possibly do that but what human beings can do is quite amazing and i actually now believe that this attitude is actually more cynical than the people who just believe is it's human beings doing it because it seems to say no you can't possibly do this now they don't perhaps they have never tried or perhaps they just can't confess that is possible because perhaps they're making I don't know they might be making money out of it and I know some of them are making money out if I know some circle makers who aren't making any money out of it remember i know we some researchers are making plenty of money out of it i think money is neutral i'm very happy forever want to make money out of it for circle makers i like everyone to make money I've including the farlands then everyone's happy then everyone's happy and at the end of day that that's what really counts money because it suggests a wonderful experience to go into a circle and you find that when you go out and meet people in circles is so there's a camaraderie and the only vanishes when we're at talks and people are talking and being experts and being in a sense condescending or using it as a platform to broadcast our own particular philosophy and many people are doing this to become my gurus and they don't actually like light gurus they don't you know anything but profess to know and that is a there is a bit of a corruption of circle of the off circle making of the circles phenomenon I think in a sense the Word of God right through prophets as that the Prophet is a human being flesh-and-blood burn and God is speaking through that flesh and bone through a spirit a spiritualist flesh and Barnum and possible messages from the beyond needs to be that physical presence with Jesus he came he was physically present to transmit this energy to conduct this experiment whatever it was or to be a part of this great sacrifice so there seems to be a necessity of physical necessity and so human beings of perhaps channels or or conduits so that there's this lie of specialness isn't it you know the circle makers might feel special because they're making the formations the researchers might feel special because they are discovering the formations but really perhaps no one is special we're just part of a movement perhaps it's given me the opportunity to interact with and experience something clearly described as being supernatural paranormal which at the best of times is very exciting and exhilarating and perhaps at the worst of times is quite unnerving and even frightening there's a certain artistic pride which comes into it which I'll admit I enjoy when someone praises my work or work I've been involved with but I don't really see it functions particularly well inside the artery nuh which has a problematic relationship with the public and works far better outside the artery know when people know that what they're looking at is a crop circle and not something that's hung in a gallery I don't really see it as that much trouble it is very addictive doing it especially if you're experiencing things which are beyond conventional science or science as we know it if the believers want to believe whatever their beliefs maybe I'm quite happy to let them believe that and I'm not going to come out and say that I've made this particular formation it's not in my interest to claim authorship I let people freely believe what they want to it doesn't so much anger me unless the product which they're they're selling is a very poor quality I'm quite happy to go out and buy their products if they're of an adept standard I don't crave publicity but i think it's an integral part of of the crop circle phenomenon not perhaps the publicity of the people behind it but the publicity of the circles themselves is very important why don't I don't feel that I'm pulling the wool over anyone's eyes because I'm allowing

Croppies – Crop Circle Documentary HD 720p50 REMASTERED 2018



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Cheeky and in depth, this documentary is the basis for the Circlemaker extended doumentary which I made from the unedited clips from this production. Basically after seeing this I wanted to see the unedited stuff and was so impressed by the interviews I wanted the im full in Circlemakers. So major Gratitude to Grant for making this documentary and allowing me to use his footage. Grants website is Grant is a freelance camerman and producer and is available for paid projects.

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Circlemakers pt9 of 18 (3 Hour) documentary



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Circlemaking in the UK has been going on for many years. Hear from Circlemakers why they make circles and why some of them believe circles attract strange effects and stranger people.

Circles cropcircle UFO Conspiracy Paranormal Hoaxing Wiltshire Stones Megalith
check out my site… www.truthseekers-uk.org Matthew Williams

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them to have a free decision about their their belief they they can go out into a field and experience something which is very personal to them something which perhaps only they can experience in that particular circle would be very special to them it's not in my interest to say I made that circle it didn't happen because quite obviously to them it did and very often something strange will have occurred whilst creating the circle people are quite free to believe what they want to as long as they don't impose their own beliefs upon me allow me to base my opinion and beliefs on what I've experienced we're not going to get caught or prosecuted it's near enough impossible task unless you're going to mount 24-hour surveillance on every field in the south of England for the period that the crops grow which simply isn't feasible I'm not directly involved in any kind of religion so saying to people who believe in Christianity that there simply isn't a god or jesus never existed isn't really in my my particular interest I mean I'm involved in circles not in Christianity and circles aren't strictly a religion however much the believers might like to think it is exactly the same amounted right as anyone who researches the circles as to market a product which ultimately is on the backbone of something I've made and exactly the same amount of of writers a farmer has to charge to pound entry fee into its field they kind of need us we need them without the publicists of our product it makes it well renders it fifty percent useless really it's something which needs to interact with the media with the public and without that it's it goes unseen it's just for me to know about and people have made the circle with no believers really know that that I play quite as big a part as i doing in circle making until until now perhaps absolutely it's one of them the main reasons why I make circles it's perhaps not every circle that you go out make has some kind of paranormal experience but at least one every year for the last five years ranging from maybe a huge ball of light with a very low almost inaudible humming noise with it that appears to cast no light whatsoever or a column of light shooting out from the sky company by a kind of metallic smell like you've held coins in your hand or small balls of light doing seemingly impossible things as well as perhaps events which occur afterwards like camera battery drains on on your return that perhaps a circle which I thought I'd made up appears somewhere else particularly relevant for instance on some secret document somewhere or something like that if I've made a circle and and I think that that I purely and simply come up with that design from my own consciousness that maybe someone else's has drawn out that sign or symbol or had some direct relevance to that and experience that symbol somewhere else um it seems now that there's been a quite a huge shift in perception from the believers that whilst formerly they're quite happy to believe that the circles were made by some supernatural force that now they're more than happy to believe that the circles can be made by humans but it doesn't matter the shapes that are appearing in the fields are giving inspiration and allowing for people to enjoy perhaps the countryside and and the phenomena whereas beforehand if you mention the word hoax you get a scornful look and perhaps be targeted for some aggressive behavior and that doesn't really seem to be too much of a priority now no because in many ways I don't think think that the whole phenomena is is defunct as I've said there's many kind of instances of something paranormal happening which when it makes you feel quite unnerved because you don't know precisely what role you play and in the whole phenomena it can be a little confusing at times I get I guess I'm fairly confused as to what what role I play I'd like to think that there was something bigger and greater out there as I think perhaps everyone would I think the whole whole thing resides in land art ultimately has an authorship behind it when crop circles and have no authorship behind them they are a lot more powerful they um they are crop circles not art which I find particularly interesting if they become art or land art they lose a lot of their their mystique their paranormal powers people are less likely to believe in something happening and I think that's very important that if you're wanting to experience something you have to go into it with an open mind and not a closed mind do people will come and I wouldn't use perhaps a stronger word is worship but they'll bring a whole manner of beliefs be it dowsing or meditation and or just simply wanting to experience a particular change in atmosphere or energy and that is I think perhaps one of the bigger successes of crop circles that they can bring together a lot of people who want to experience these things and a lot of enjoyment when people do experience these things be it that it's not collectively or cannot be proven is perhaps a facet of the whole phenomena which which is very integral to it but consider myself an architect of temporary sacred sites depending on what people experience when they're in that temporary temple if however they do experience something that I'm I'm very happy for them that they have experienced something and it could be seen then as a temporary sacred site

Circlemakers pt5 of 18 (3hour!) documentary



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it comes through hopefully in the way that we not only the art form itself but also in the way that we go about making the circle in a very reverent and shamanic maybe way well I definitely believe there seems to be some other form of intelligence that seems to be interacting with circle makers and believers are like you know at some level this certainly reams of evidence of balls of light the amount of people have seen them that I know that I've met or talked to that I've heard talk and the mat film that came out from people that I trust and know and like you know that there definitely seems to be a presence of some description that seems to be pushing the crop circle phenomenon forward more than just how the people are moving it and changing it without being too specific I had one occasion where I was making a circle at night without anybody really known that I was out there and it during our invocation I asked I thought I mean always like to ask for something for I make a circle and in this particular case and I thought I'd help a farmer out hopefully and I was party general and I said can-can Great Spirit can you make this place more fertile and I can see my daughter about 23 days later so yeah be careful what you ask for because you might just get it I i have seen balls of light I've seen them while I've been making crop circles and also wildlife just been staying out overnight in the area there's something that's almost taken for granted by a lot of the people round here once you start spending time and air you you can't help but understand that they are there here you know they're in the area you know I'd really like to find out where this consciousness comes from where it external maybe it's in turn or maybe it's a bit of both maybe the two are the same but there's definitely something in the fact that these places are magic coincidences happen more in these areas they're much more prevalent much more much stronger much more life-changing almost well now they are life-changing they fundamentally changed the way that people view things and it this seems more than just more than just a coincidence this is a synchronous this is greater this is always a divine and there seems to be a consciousness or motivating consciousness behind this that seems to be driving things forward driving us to some eventual conclusion what that eventual conclusion is i don't know maybe it's maybe it's that everything is interconnected maybe that we're not separate entities maybe on some level we're all we're all part of the same thing you know and what wonderful message for a consciousness to maybe to put forward to us you know what greater message is there maybe it's the great lesson that we have to learn in this very troubled time I make circles because I'm an artist and I regard circle making as part of my artwork circle there's a tradition of circle making stretching back 20 years I'm a part of that tradition and there are certain things that making a crop sir who do demands and and that doesn't evolve call our work and planning and such like so if people will go about trouble then I guess that's what it is but to me it's just part of the activity of being an artist and making up and maybe a slightly odd peculiar why I suppose well making circles is not joke I mean it is funny sometimes but generally it's not a joke I mean I could regard making circles is actually quite a serious activity where I'm going to occupies a lot of my time a lot my thoughts and I mean I think the circles functioning quite profound way for a lot of people crop circle making is kind of a selfless act in a way when you make a circle although you're the author of it because it's important that the circles I'm not seem to have human authors you lose control of it and therefore people I suppose can do what they like with it I mean I actually think that photographers that take such stunning photographs they deserve every penny they get from the photographs and I'm also particularly pleased when farmers make money from charging people to enter in formation I don't particularly crave publicity for myself but I do want my work to be seen in the public context and interact in a public way with large numbers of people and hopefully often in quite a profound way as well I've never pulled the wool over anyone's eyes actually and I've got note really any interested in doing in doing that making circles is really like any other aspect of my art making there's nothing to septum about it I'm simply going out into the field and laying down a design and I suppose with that design goes a question to people what does this mean for you why is it there and how is it there people are free to answer those questions how they will I'm really interested in what people believe and part of the reason for making circles I suppose this is it isn't like some kind of curious amalgam of at once going out and making a circle and and feeling that you've met some kind of challenge some kind of technical challenge and at the same time then watching how other people absorb your creations and interpret it and speculate analyze it whatever so in that sense what people believe is fundamental to the practice of making circles but not in the sense of mocking the belief in fact you're actually interacting engaging with the belief there is a totally symbiotic relationship with the circle makers and the people that research them crop circle researchers UFO researchers whatever they like to call themselves actually the risk of being called prosecuted is very low the fields of southern England are a numerous and very large and it's almost impossible to be detected whilst you're making a circle on one occasion I was lost for two hours in the field trying to find two other people who filled who and you were there but despite knowingly were there it still took me over two hours to find them now imagine if you went into a field and you didn't really know whether there was anyone there just finding anyone a so remote so the chances of being discovered or so remote really I'm not attacking a belief system but I certainly amer as of certainly am interacting with it and engaging with it I mean I'm actually myself very attracted to unorthodox I suppose what other people call unorthodox alternative belief systems and as an artist it's part my artwork is engaging in them in a variety of different ways crop circles is just one so in that sense it's important that it's not an Orthodox belief system like like this church or some other established Orthodox belief system whether it be overly religious or otherwise I mean I can't I don't think any circle maker could morally justify what they do in the fields it's not possible obviously it's criminal and in that respect it's hard to take any moral position against it and I don't seek to do that but I do hope that what i do brings bring some kind of experience to people who visit them that they think is worthwhile that they don't feel that visiting them has been a waste of time and they've got some kind of persia format so I'm sort of enjoyment from it or maybe something even more profound on man my activities yeah sometimes Duke was no trouble from believers I think really because there's a climate of misunderstanding between circle makers and researchers a circle mechs are generally rather caricatured in the minds of researchers and as a consequences a certain amount of material directed against circle makers not just myself other circle makers as well as I say I think it's really a resolved misunderstanding I've had a couple of phone calls and some letters I I wouldn't call them a campaign of hatred of paranoia in any sense I think that they are just cases of misunderstanding but there is a curious paradox where circles researchers love the creations that we artists make but on the other hand hate the idea that they're made by the up by artists and not by some sort of form of some sort of paranormal entity so as a consequence they're stuck somewhere in between those two things yeah first time actually um for one of the first times that I visited a circle I actually took a photograph which are I suppose what would be called a photograph

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Oh so why did you make circles well actually were we lived in Australia from 1958 to 66 which was eight and a half years and me always being interested in outer space and UFOs and things I saw an article in The Australian newspaper one day about some circles in some reed beds or grass in cui tally in Queensland and after reading it of course I forgot all about it but when I returned home in in 66 I met David chorley and he was also an artist so we had a common interest there and for the next few years we used to go out on air Friday evenings to have a drink in the pub and talk about paintings and one day when we were walking on cheese forehead near Winchester one summer evening in the midst of the corn fields we sat down there and trying to get a bit of inspiration probably for some paintings and I suddenly remembered this article that I read while in Australia and I said told him about it and I said to be quite a good bit of fun if we we could devise some way of making a circular mark in the cornfields here and sort of a raise a bit of interest people would think that a UFO had landed you're in the night when they discovered it the next morning so after returning home to my workshop I sort of thought quite a bit the next day as to what we could use to make this circle so we started off by using my big heavy security bar that was on my workshop door and our first few circles were made on her hands and knees with this security bar we were kneeling down side by side but my goodness it was certainly hard work but it was quite good fun because you were down below the height of the corn and if a car was coming down the road and the headlights were surging towards you we used to just to say damn we go and just wait for it to pass and but for the first two years our circles were were not seen at all except I supposed by the driver of the combine harvester because we were doing them in fields that were the public wouldn't see them from the road the ideal place of course would have been the punch bowl of cheese forehead but at that time they were sheep in there and I don't think it had ever been played for crops until about the third year my wife and I drove up past their one Sunday afternoon and they were plowing the punch bowl and I thought to myself I must go back to the Hamptons is find dave chorley and tell him that the ideal spot for doing a circle was now under crops so we patiently waited until the spring to see the first corn arrive and we knew that this would be the ideal spot to do our circles and our first circle in the punch bowl which I mean it was on the news the next evening which which pleases quite a lot and of course the other at the other place which was ideal for the public to view them was the white horse at westbury and clay hill which we did quite a few there as well it was it was all a bit of fun really yes and being circular and you folks were circular we just wanted people to imagine a gist urges to believe the next morning that my god something's landed here during the night and the fact that it was circular they immediately would think that it was a UFO because the flying saucers were circular you see there's no good doing square or triangle or anything like that because they wouldn't cotton on to anything from outer space and as I say once the news broke it gave us quite a fillip you see and took it to carry on because day chorley said to me one day says I've had enough of this he said i'm not going to keep on doing this he said every week he says we're getting nowhere with this we're getting no publicity I said you just hang on a minute I said especially when the punch bowls ploughed know that we can get down in there and of course lo and behold it was on the television news the next night and the news was rapidly spreading around that something was making the circular marks in the cornfields and of course you know the story from then on it just grew and grew and of course the more publicity we got with the media and newspapers and things it egged us on even more so the circles continued as circles for quite a while but dr. Terrence meetin who is a very clever man as far as weather is concerned he he really got us because that he was saying it was the wind board as you see and that we didn't like that so we had to change from circles into something else if you want to come Patti in a bit of cake you say so you break off well we we were so secretive about all this and we realize when we started this that no one no one must know what we were doing and otherwise it was going to spoil everything completely and then we said to each other more what a better wives and I said well the fact that we go every friday evening they won't they won't be any of the wiser because that was our usual thing is to go out friday evenings for a pint of beer and but it was seven years before my wife really found out okay i had a good laugh at some of the things that they said I mean for instance if you see people laying on their backs in a circle joining hands and doing a dance around to me that was incredibly funny when I first heard of it but after a while I got to a different way of thinking and I thought was a well if this is what they want to make of it it's entirely up to them I can't understand why it's got so big but I can see now that it's more or less uncontrollable because these people are going to do exactly what they want and if they get pleasure from it okay bifocals letters well we were very surprised that we did receive two letters from a group called the Black Watch and and said that we had to stop making circles in cornfields and it it did worry as quite a bit because the way you've got to look at this is that if anything happened to us in any form then there's suspicions would then go to the people that sent these letters because I'm a wildlife sound recordist and have been for about 15 to 20 years now and I'm out most nights recording the signs of deer and mammals and birds all this sort of thing and when I went to the meeting at the guildhall in Winchester one evening which was the subject of crop circles they brought up this business about the grasshopper warbler the same that they'd heard upon cheese for head near Winchester and I knew immediately what this was because I'd already recorded this bird several years before and this bird also sings at night and when it came to question time after the meeting I walked up to the stage and I spoke two busty Taylor who happened to be there and the other people as well and I said the noise that you heard that night was a grasshopper warbler because I'm a sound recordist and I knew what it was and they did everything but almost threw me out of the guild hall but of course there again you see I think the more the more you can add to this phenomenon the more interest you're going to get worldwide from audiences you can say that you've got damage to your lenses of your cameras and you got my I mean if you if you take a get away from the circle business a minute but people that have their films developed every week of the year they they have marks and things on on their film which was which is more or less can't be explained but the fact that these people