Full Doc, Full Documentary, A Personal Documentary by Damian Chapa star of Blood in Blood out.
Director: Damian Chapa
Writer: Damian Chapa
Star: Damian Chapa
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hello my name is Damien choppa I've been making films for over 35 years I started films such as under siege with Steven Seagal Street Fighter with Van Daan and help adrenal with Faye Dunaway I've also started films with Tommy Lee Jones passed out a letter Maria Conchita Alonso and many more stars in Hollywood I've been very blessed I have such a wonderful career I even had the chance to work with Chris Tucker one of the most brilliant comedians of our time I even won the New York International Film & Video Festival Best Drama and best film award for Brandel unauthorized I was the only person in the world who ever to direct a film and play Roman Polanski I won best production and indie fest for this film however throughout my career no other film has ever touched or brought so much emotion to me as blood in blood out sanguine horse underneath blood into blood Allen has become a cult status film it has been released throughout the world international countries such as Japan in 1 the Tokyo Film Festival for the director terror actor many other countries are very very well in its presence such as Sweden in Germany France where it's called Princeton deleted which means Prince of the city many countries kept its name sänger it for Simon or blood in blood out of course in Latin America and of course Latino USA it's become a real household name and I've been very blessed to be a part of that many people know my character name as meat loaf or a level or milkweed this film has lived on and many people's hearts and minds what did what out changed my life it really as an actor it started my career but myself as a human being damien choppa it also led me on a journey to discover my Chicano culture I've done so many movies and been on so many sets and been all over the world but no film has been like the experience that happened over 20 years ago to me as a filmmaker as an actor it's been a great experience because that film was the foundation of my very existence as an actor I was born in Ohio and later on moved to New York City however I experienced many different people many different cultures however my father was Chicano and he was from Roth's town Texas and I was a little boy my father he sent me down to see Maya weather and mio ella was named Juanita Chaplin one of the greatest figures in my life I spent time in Ohio and then New York but when I finally went down to robstown aerobic or the roughs town the Cotton Pickers as people know it down there I began to experience something that really changed me as a person I began to understand more about my Chicano roots and I held on to my wonderful beautiful Indian face grandmother and I looked up at her and I wondered what was this mystery what was she about how was I a part of this my Spanish was not really that good when I went down to see my grandmother to experience my Chicano culture for the first time as a youth I did have some experience with my uncles all who spoke Spanish but I mainly wasn't around them as a young boy but when I was around them I started to feel and see the difference between my parents my mother being white and my father being jacana there were many differences in the culture and I began to understand a little Spanish so by the time I went to Rob's town aerobic I began to open up myself to this beautiful language and this beautiful culture my grandmother only spoke Spanish to me and it was a journey and an interesting way of learning Spanish because I was sort of forced into it because I didn't know much week after week I began to America me a letter and to learn things about my culture she would take me down the street of Main Street in Rob's town and show me all the different stores that had been there for decades and decades one of the stores my grandfather owned his name was Tesla's Jetta both my grandparents were immigrants from Mexico my grandmother happened to be American Indian and adopted by a wonderful Mexican couple who brought her up as a mexican-american of course the indigenous are mixed with the Spanish which is what makes Mexican I was very proud of this fact that my grandmother was a very high percentage of American Indian actually the tribe was Caren Cowan so many Mexicans mixed with Karen Collins and many Spanish mixed with Indians and indigenous tribes and created this multicultural aspect of the Mexican American experience I was blessed to have many sides by culturally and in this experience learning more about myself as a Chicano it opened me up or something that later on in my life I would never understand how perfect the synchronicity would be that I would play me clove Elka I noticed something when I was in the Mexican American culture I noticed a warmth and a love that I hadn't experienced as a child with my other cousins my cousins on the other side Hood spout off racial comments like taco boy wetback or what happened these things hurt as a child I also was able to experience the mexican-american when I went to Michigan with my wonderful Tia Norma idea my Enderman she would make me wonderful Mexican meals and accept me with loving arms also along with my three moles Jesse Turkey Rolando all my family I really really loved them very much they gave me such a warm inviting and something different than I had on the white side not to say that I didn't experience wonderful things on that side I did but there was something about the way the Mexican community embraced their weather it was really nice feeling to be accepted that way like I said Texas was a great place but I've experienced this feeling throughout the Latino world this acceptance and wonderful love for a level so basically what happened was I went in to read for the Academy Award director Taylor Hackford I was very nervous and it was the biggest part I never read for it was the ultimate film $35,000,000 Disney film one of the lead roles and a role that I felt did I deserve because I grew up like this I knew that I was right for the part but I did not have the experience that many of the other actors had they were up for the part and there were many famous actors up for the Parkers Miklos and many other much more experienced people in me so when I went in Taylor loosened me up a lot he taught me a lot about my experience as a young Chicano growing up I told him about my grandmother I told him about my grandfather I told him about the immigrants from Mexico my wonderful Diaz and deals were a part of this culture and my father who tried to send me to my grandmother's to make me understand who what I was I told them about these experiences and he seemed very enamored with this I think for him it would probably looking back be a great experience to see somebody who actually had the same elements as meatloaf not only superficial things like the light hair at the time and blue eyes and lighter complexion but growing up in this fight of trying to figure out where you fit in and I experienced many of those things I expressed that to the director so he made me feel very warm and welcoming and tried to get the best out of me which really helped so I read for him and I put everything into it but I was so nervous I think I remember jittery men in my hands were shaking throughout the breathing so I don't know if I did such a great reading but there were times and moments there was real that I felt it and I think he saw that so he looked at me and he said listen we don't have a lot of time at that point they were just about ready to cast the part and there were three or four people they had in mind already for me close so he looked at me said I'm gonna screen test you those other people I'm not saying you have the part but I'm gonna screen test you I thank them very much I've left the office I went home I studied the lines over and over and over and over again there were about four scenes one of which was the scene inside the prison where I talked to Montana and I tell him I'm white on the outside but I'm brown on the inside to the ballers and that scene was one of the scenes that I read and used as the screen test so I went in and I looked around at the scene it was the first time I'd ever been in a studio to do a screen test I was so nervous and here I had seen all these famous people that were up for my same role and I just felt a bit insecure and I didn't know if I could pull it off but something deep within me say you've got to try got to try hard and then something wonderful happened during the screen test I met Benjamin Bratt who was playing tako they were already cast him and Jesse Laredo and what happened was Jesse pareto came up to me told me some things about Texas and maybe relax and I looked and I saw something still familiar Jesse I saw a text mix and somebody there was so warm and loving and fighting and a real poet I mean Jesse have been a very famous guy when I was growing up already I mean I'm Jesse right away from Fame it was amazing that he came up to me and was so warm and inviting me told me relax take it easy it's gonna be all right you know he really gave me something that really if it wasn't for Jesse I don't think I would have got through the screen test and I think from then on throughout the performance Jesse and I bonded in that way the next thing that happened was very interesting I got through the screen test I went home big lobe came off my shoulders that I finished the original screenplay the original screen test the original competition I went home and three or four days passed by and I didn't hear anything from anybody and I began to get a little depressed because I knew and I felt the emotions that day in the prison in the screen-test prison I knew that it was there I knew that Michael had arrived but I didn't hear anything from the director about five days later I got a call with some Taylor Hackford I have to tell you something Damien we have a big problem and I thought to myself oh no there goes that part he said no wait I want to tell you you did a great job you did a great screen test like 85% of the footage from the screen test has been mistakenly destroyed a part of me was destroyed at that moment because I put all this effort all these years all these emotions everything into the screen test to play meat glue and blood in blood out and here was the director calling me to tell me that my screen test was destroyed I couldn't do anything but ask him what are we gonna do about and he told me he said we need to screen test again so out of all the other actors I was the only one who had the screen testing yet because for some reason my footage was destroyed maybe it was an accident could well bend I went back in I did my role I was very nervous my brother had passed nearly after that it was dying of cancer I was really going through a lot back then my brother Rico whom I loved and dedicate all this – well it it was a very difficult time because I got to the tough time in the first competition but my brother was failing them so when I went in I I was a bit disheveled and I did not do nearly as good as I did in the first reading or a screen test I didn't do as good and on the second screen test as I did the first one for many reasons but Taylor called me up and he said hey we'll get back to all the actors in a weekend we'll let you know good job you did better on the first one when he said hey we found a way to save the footage that was inside the prison the greatest screen test I did was inside the prison I was so relieved so they were going to intercut the new screen test with the original footage decide that it was great test for myself and my family where I asked them to be a part of that one day and that screen test was the most important for me because I remember feeling the emotions a week later I got a call Taylor Hackford said we go can you come meet me and I said Nico he's calling me Mitra I said of course so he said come meet me he gave me an address to a very famous restaurant in Hollywood I'm no rules at the time I had not met Jimmy vodka but I walked in and I saw a very very intense brilliant man named Jimmy buck is sitting there and Jimmy was very very similar to the role he played above him that I very controlled very emotional very brilliant and very very understanding that very intuitive man i sat down in front of Jimmy began to question me about my childhood questioning me about my Chicano rules questioned me about the experience I had with certain members of my family that had been in organized crime and so on and so on at least that's what the papers say but the thing is when I shared my expenses with Jimmy we bonded very much so and I saw the tailor who many people have to understand Taylor it's not a Chicano Taylor has no Latino in them at all Taylor isn't about it as white as they get and a very brilliant man and I think it was interesting because here was a director who's doing a film on the Chicano experience who had no idea what it was like to be a Chicano he might have had friends he might have had experiences but he could not feel the same that we did and even me being a whether because we all understand what it feels like the little idiosyncrasies but Taylor had a great understanding a great instinct and intuitive there's for this story and I think it's probably better than it was told by him as he could get an outside perspective of our community and I've seen many many films that are done by that they know filmmakers that were wonderful but I think in this experience it was very nice the outside view the outside perspective of the director to take the Chicano experience and express it and as an artist he did a great job with it but Jimmy and I bonded we came together on it and we all three knew that night the reality the next step was methodical directing Taylor Hackford took Jesse for Abel Benjamin Bratt who played popcorn Jesse played Cruz and myself who played meatloaf Damon Chopra he took all three of us and put us in East Los Angeles and actually made us live inside right beside the eye of the storm and at the time there were many shootings everywhere I mean I don't think there was a two nights that went by that I didn't hear a shot go off where I was living he put us in Boyle Heights and he put us in a wonderful family we lived with them the first thing I saw was a guy and I was one of the only guys inside them with this particular small group that had any real street experience so I understood it a bit more but I think Jessie and Ben were very courageous to go there and to live for three months with me to experience the street life to understand this part of the Chicano culture and many other parts of the Chicano community which were wonderful and had nothing to do with with this gangster experience there's so many hard-working wonderful law-abiding citizens in Latino in the Latino community I mean many many much more than ten gangsters so however it's like any group of people who come and try to immerse themselves into a society like the Irish did the Irish did it when they came to America and they had gains and you know they emerged and became great citizens the Italians didn't think many games became great citizens for the most part it happens to many many groups of people to come in and try to fit it into a society that's not theirs so it's nothing unusual that this happened in the mexican-american community so we went into this community and we started living and one thing led to another and Jesse became the artist he became clues of course Jessica's a real artist in his own right but he you could see day after day he was becoming clues every element then reward every walked every touch every dance Jesse became Cruz and would shine in his clues in every element and I wasn't a method actor but the part of the method that I was in this case was becoming part of the community for a role that was extremely gigantic I mean you're talking about a thirty five million dollar film a hundred and eighty page script originally you know die along after dialogue understanding the community in all of it we all came together we lived together we had dangerous times over there's a time when jesting bad and I think there was bend and went down to a picnic and there was a kid that was shot right here and he came back and he was emotionalism you know it was not a very easy thing to deal with these are real people and real guns him really really people were you know it was it was the real thing and but you know we you know we had courage we encouraged and we walked through it and we really lived it I think I had a more of experience of living him because what happened was all of us got together I became me glow I lived me globe Jesse lived as Cruz and Ben lived as Papa why me we by the time we started filming this I think Taylor Hackford knew that we were ready to experience these roles not to play them but to experience them and that's what I did I experienced this young me Clos growing up trying to fit in doing what everything to do and that great scene on top of the hilltop where spider gets shot and all these emotions is probably one of the my favorite scenes in the movie I think Taylor Negron did it such a genius jargon and letting us experience what it was like to be a team that Chicano team fighting ourselves and going up against ourselves and different gangs within the city and here I was I was trying to be good and trying to do the straight thing but I wanted to be with my cousin's so I found myself in a position where here I was next thing you know I got a gun and I got to shoot somebody because he's shooting my cousin's so the machismo test was there the test of courage was put in front of me close and it changed his life for me the journey wasn't over in East LA for my character and for me as an accurate I had to continue on we shot many many weeks in East LA and many emotions and scenes and wonderful times together all of us the crew all the actors but then it came a time for us to say goodbye temporarily and for me to pack up and get ready to go to some fancy school to send Clinton this place is a very very unique place a lot of hopelessness people doing 5 10 20 50 life in prison this was a very very very dark place in Clinton but yet as an actor and as a person I learned so much inside these prison walls these prison walls were filled with people who had character who had unique each one of them individual even though they were in a prison they still had a life it was a life inside of a light inside of a life inside of a prison wall the prison life is so different than the outside life it's its own community in its own right its own world and in that world you had to learn what those rules and regulations of that world were or you could get killed this was not a serious thing for some people as most of the people had to come in go out a day later but I was there every day living amongst these people so I had to become a part of this prison I'd become a part of its terms a part of understanding who and what it was like to become a lifelong prisoner in st. Quentin and I found it very interesting and very realistic that Taylor Hackford chose for us to really shoot inside the prison with real prisoners and I think that this is what made the movie so authentic many of us had experienced I had experienced prison most of the people had an experience that were after some did but the people that were in this prison were so helpful and so delighted to be a part of it because here they were in a life that was very mundane and here all this big Hollywood crook to make a movie about their culture in about their life so they were so helpful and so alive and and I think we gave some color to their lives and I think that made me very happy to be a part of that to not only be a part of one of the best movies I think that's been made in Hollywood and so fortunate to be in partners not because of me because of such a wonderful director and other wonderful actors and I think that yes I was a part of that I was blessed to be a part of it but without each and every intricate part of this movie it would never have been what it is and this is why there are people that and this is why there are people that throughout the world that understand me close character understand what I'm without I remember getting off a train in Bulgaria one time and some Bulgarian came they didn't speak a word English but he understood the English words from blood in blood out and he started spooling them off one by one must have said about 20 lives to me from blood and without of course about those locals forever it was one of them so you know this world had the world that has an understanding of what does film is I mean this isn't a Chicano this is the Chicano experience that has been experienced by so many people outside of America I mean there are Swedish people that come up with me Germans Italian French Japanese it was a big film in Japan and it's kind of a film that is more of an experience than it is a movie it's an experience it's almost like when you put those virtual goggles on if you watch a virtual experience I think that's what Taylor after did he gave us almost a virtual experience of being in Chicago prison life the emotions of the Latino Chicano community I think did they only make he almost made it virtual one of the things I found fascinating about blood and without and one of the most understated things in publicity afterwards was the brilliant genius work of Adam Hernandez he was the person who painted the mural at the end of the movie who did all of Jesse for those paintings I think that this man's work is so amazing and such a part of blood in blood out I mean there are times when you could look at one mural at a diner – painted and you can relive and experience the entire Chicano experience the entire blood and blood I've experienced and one of these paintings it's fascinating how this man enriches his art his paintings with such colors the colors of our community the blues and the greens and the yellows and and you know the the colors that we are so enriched with in the Chicano community I think that an honor nada is really really was one of the souls and there were many major souls in this that created this amazing film that was such a great life's experience of course chippy Baca was his vocabulary in the dialogue and the prison of dialogue on the streets without Jimmy Baca this film could never been what it is and without Don Hernandez this would never been the experience that we all experienced from going in without when I look at at Don's paintings I see and feel sundar personally blood in blood out as I said is a worldwide experience I'm so as I say over and over again blessed to be a part of this historical film you know this film was originally five hours long I'll never forget the first cut of it Taylor Hackford brought me and he wanted me to screen it with him I was very flattered that you'd want and after that come and see it and a few of us went to go see it and it was five hours of something long and I tell you I saw the greatness to his working but he took me afterwards after we watched the fire couldn't took we know families a lot of doors it's what do you think and I was of course flattered that he wanted to know my feelings I was just a young actor although there were many times he embraced my emotions and thoughts and artistic endeavor and during certain scenes that I thought looking back on it being a director now how smart that was to listen to your actors and to gain from your actors and your artists which is what he did he was smart enough to do that and I told him pretty blank it's too long and I had to be regal I had to tell him you have to stay more in the prison because that prison was originally like a subpart of movie Nico was a subpart I was the fourth lead in the movie I was for sure not the lead character in the original screenplay I was happy to have the fourth lead but what happened is it generated into this more of the prison feeling of the movie because the five hour version a lot of it was on the streets and with some of the other characters and what I think he did is he intertwined everything that didn't stayed in the prison war which I think was fascinating and probably why the film was sold worldwide went out he cut it down to three hours and 20 minutes long and what I think was most brilliant editing jobs and directing jobs my lifetime as a filmmaker and active it I've seen I think he did such a fascinating job there I did this personal documentary of what it was like to play meatloaf because I've had such a long career but never ends anything stuck with me like about to the locals forever or the fans we blend without the fans from blood and without for the greatest fans that any actor could ever wish for his dreams I mean we've even heard things like were up there with with films like Scarface and and boys in the hood all these other wonderful films and I thought were great and when you hear things like this from fans you say to yourself we must have been really part of something that gave some color to people's lives cases understanding in people's lives and like I said place about Germany Italy and France and Sweden places like Japan you know China even and people come up to you and they want to know what it was like to play meatloaf you know you did something there were a part of something that is really wonderful I mean I was just a small part in such a big part of a major event that happened in blood but I now soon blessed to be a part of it I think that what happened was in this film is it became a household name of the Chicano community of course but it spread its wings and crossed over to all cultures because of one thing it was about family there was about a media and every culture understands familia every culture understands pain suffering loss and this was the genius that Jaime Bachman incorporated into the script this was the brilliance that Taylor Hackford brought together into one big film about the Chicano experience that the whole world I hear that they even played blended without in some schools to give people an understanding of it these fell they experienced there are some gang members that are being told to watch this within the community social communities to teach them what it's going to be like if you go this life and that is such a problem filling on my part to be part of a movie that people can learn from I mean if you do one movie like that in your lifetime you can consider yourself a very lucky person I think it's time now for me to give what I originally wanted to give my fans in this personal documentary meet below what it was like to play me flowing blood ends it out and hand it over to my fans and ask them certain questions that they want to know about blooded without and to give them some deeper insight into it so here we have some questions so the first question is Jimmy Martinez Jimmy wants to know do they still call you milkweed or meatloaf and the answer to that question is for sure yes I don't think there's a week or a day that goes by that when I'm in a Hispanic community that I don't get someone coming up to me and saying Milly Nick Lowe I don't think I get called my real name as an actor many times in this community it's always meet low or wetter or milkweed so yes the answer is yes why Garcia asks what did you take in from the movies opinion and I answer her this I told it so much in from this movie as I said before it was the Chicano experience for me also you know I had subtle parts of that growing up like I said but this was such an amazing part a big dose of the culture that I embraced and loved so much I was able to live in this movie the music the dancing of fool the good times the bad times the darkness the light of the Chicano community I was able to experience and I took in so much and so thankful for Eduardo Gonzalez asked to taco and Cruz and meat glue do they still hang out well I of course have seen both of these wonderful actors after the wonderful blood and without experience not as much as I play but I don't think there would ever be a time in our lives that Jesse well Ben and I are many of the other cast would come up to each other and see each other and not relive that experience we lived over 20 years ago because it's such a vast and such an intense experience we lived together that there's no way that I could see Jesse without growing up and giving him in Brussels and say hey man you okay you know it was it was a great feeling for all of us we were young artists young Chicano artists some of us not Chicano some of us like Ben's Peruvian but all that Tino artists and we all grew up together like this and were able to express the Chicano spirit ease together as artists I don't think there's ever a time in my life I will ever have an experience like this and I must say that one of the greatest actors in the movie was in the Vickie Castillo Castillo one of my favorite actors he played Montana without his wonderful theater experience emotions I could have never been able to express myself in this endeavor of London without playing Vito he gave me so much so much emotion as a man as a friend as a person as an actor that without Montana's character I don't think this ever could have been with it and now Burt though or thing I asked why don't we do blood and without – that's a very good question on their toll I must say to you this that I am NOT controlled I'm not in control of any of the elements of the film I was merely an accurate back then it's such a long ago journey for me however Disney and Taylor Hackford are the ones that had the rights to do the film I think it'd be a great experience to do a follow up of London but I want Michael gets out of jail what experience he would have what experience Ben would have pop-goes character you just see all these other wonderful characters in the movie I think that it's a matter of politics and a matter of finance that's the only thing I can think of I mean you must understand this movie came out during the riots let him get out came out of during a time when people were testing the waters Disney was testing the waters with these types of films and they didn't get a very good reaction a lot of groups were saying no to Disney why are you doing this why you doing this gangster movie they're supposed to be Disney and you know they kind of pulled back the reins so when the movie came out it was a great success in the theaters on til the riots happen right during the movie release and there's a bunch of fighting in the theaters different gangs and this and that so they pulled the plug on it which caused it to be a financial doom I think in the early years of course later on two years later it was a very sad thing for us during those two years but because none of us got a chance to you know get our careers off the money because nobody saw the film they pulled it but then back then they had VHS and they on VHS and the next thing you know it became this cult film so it gave me the new life it became what it is today which is a film uh that people know all over the world and it became what it should be but to do another when it's the right time it's the right time to see the maturity of the characters and where they go and I'd be the first one to say it's time to get out of prison eat low sandy Trevino asks how much of myself I brought to the character well like I said you know I grew up with gangsters I understood them well I knew the language and of the feeling I knew the post the posture the the way the movement the dialogue so I understood it early I read a lot of that to the character and was able to express what I had seen growing up through me Randal Philly would like to know what it was like from going to this good kid to the leader of the Mexican Mafia in the movie what it was like to experience that well as an actor I don't think you could dream of writing a role so wonderful for an actor's expression you start out as a young lion and I glow and then he goes and starts trying to become part of the prison a part of that journey and then gets out and becomes more mature and more strong and more dark as a character I mean there's a point in time in the movie but meet little rolls over in the prison and you know you can see a look in his eyes that he's lost everything there is nothing else to live for except one of them I think that was the thing I was able to bring to and I think that's such a great transition mold as a man as an actor to play this young lead role in this getting more mature meet little tuber stomach old rolando GS what it was like to work inside of San Quentin prisoners well like I said before it was a great experience because I get a chance as an actor to fulfill this role in the real way in a realistic way and there were many many moments that I remember to this day in the prison I remember there's a time there was a I won't mention his name where there was a murderer he'd been in for 20 years and he was just a young guy but he had shot some people when he was quite young and he was in his mid-30s till her maybe 40s but still a relatively young guy and we were shooting and all the crew was there and security guards everything and next thing you know people started trickling out to go to lunch and one thing led to another and I was laying in the real prison cots to get some rest sometimes because I was on the set so much I don't want to go out to my camper can you imagine running out to your high-end Hollywood camper and all these prisoners looking at you I mean yeah it take Ella for it and I did so I said hey I'm gonna stay in here and I'm gonna become like them while I'm doing this part to honor them and to honor my role so I would spend a lot of time inside the prison next thing you know I found myself alone in the car and I came out and there was nobody there no guards because you know they had rifles and guns protecting us from real prisoners next thing another was just me and I won't mention his name but a very very intense Chicana and a real thing I looked up at him he looked at me we were all alone it was amazing and I know he was in for murder and I looked at in the only thing I think it was want to take a picture why need to L ask did you feel very much Eastman playing the role of meepo well that's an interesting question because I think the whole machismo feeling from all the machismo emotions that came through to me glue and many of the other characters I mean back then there was not such a politically correct world like we live in today I mean I was able to express me club as this very much she's small guy which he was you know and I as a man who was able to express my chief small as it can only be seen in the Latino community is this fire his emotions and not all Latinos are like that but it's a prevalent part of our tribal community as part of our survival this machismo that isn't part of our community and anybody doesn't think it's there and anybody doesn't want it there means they want to take away something that's existed for eternity in our community and cannot be taken away and I and many actors were allowed to express this machismo in these characters and as men young men with virile composition and able to do it through characters like meat loaf taco and Cruz you know of course Cruz was more of an artist but you know still we were all real men growing and trying to survive in this community as characters and as young artists in this community we're all fighting for survival in one way or another so yes it was very much useful and I'm not afraid to say that I really embraced that part of it I embraced that part of week load that machismo part of me clothes as much as I embraced it in myself today is a whole different world you know being the machismo was almost like a no-no and politically correct you know a political correct person would think we were dinosaurs you know I don't think it's true you know I mean today I mean today being mighty small is a very politically incorrect thing to do but it's still part of the Chicano community you know they're trying to take it out you know take away things that are within our community in a Latino Hispanic community you know and even people within the Hispanic community are trying to take away things that have been with us for centuries and millennia whether it be from some sport or whatever machismo element that's a part of our society and I think it's a horrible thing to try to do I mean we don't try to go take away certain elements of other people's culture it should not be taken away from my culture my Chiefs know is a part of our culture it's a part of the tribal community the indigenous community that we all are a part of in our blood whether we be a weather like myself was only half Mexican or a full-blooded Mexican but we all have indigenous blood in us so we have a tribal community that resonates to this much useful and the survival of it Hector GS what was it like to experience and music imploded without well if you remember the movie Rocky little Conte the Academy Award winner for that movie did the music for blood without and I think that music was such a great aspect of sounded for summer and let him put out I think without those emotions that he bought with the flutes and indigenous roots and all the strings I mean really would have an amazing John I think Taylor Hackford did a great job of choosing him for this part and of course he produced all the music for this and Taylor did a great job of the music I mean without the music it would have been a great movie but not nearly as emotional as it was I just love the music was about as many others do the music the dance the food that tastes the sounds the feelings of the Chicano community that I was able to experience during this film bloody but I have never left me and never will they're part of me they're part of me though they're part of Damian Chaplin they're part of all of us who can experience this wonderful moving blood and without and I am so proud I was a part of it that I got to play meet though I'm so glad that I'm able to give a little bit if I did of in-depth understanding of what it was like to play meet globe and what it was like to get the part ones like to express the part I hope I was able to do that in this very personal documentary and I must say that the words will live on from blood and without the characters will live on the music will live on the art of a download on this will live on forever in this movie and the only way I could say goodbye to you is to tell you this but those locals forever you